Tati Gabrielle on Sexism, Shaving her Head and her Secret Friendship with Zendaya | GLAMOUR UK

Without having women around,

there's a certain level of understanding

that you can't receive from your guy best friend.

Women have a different sense of nurturing

that I think is really important to always have around.

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Hi there, I'm Tati Gabrielle

and this is my Glamor Unfiltered.

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I have gotten so much feedback

from women who have seen my characters

that it's strengthened them,

so I feel like all the way around it's empowering.

I would hope that they would find a piece of these women

in themselves and be reminded and reassured

that they do have stake in this world,

that they do have a voice,

and that voice needs to be heard and can be heard.

I would hope more than anything,

that it would teach them to be unapologetic,

unapologetically themselves, unapologetically bold.

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Tom Holland is the sweetest.

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He's very silly, very goofy, very funny.

There's a picture that I took of him

that I feel like encapsulates Tom very well.

He's hanging from something while like,

flipping me off through the camera,

and with this very like goofy face,

and it's just a very silly, cute photo.

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Yeah, I grew up with Zendaya,

and we went to school together for middle school

and early high school.

Tom was texting her while we were filming,

and then she text me.

It was like, 'Hey, he says that you're doing super awesome.

I'm like sending love'.

And I was like, 'Aw, thanks, babe'.

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I've been very grateful to have not been

in any like sort of sketchy situations.

I had like one small moment happen,

like my very first year working,

that I quickly squashed myself,

and felt very proud of myself for that

and it's never happened again.

I'm grateful that I'm in the generation that I'm in,

that times are changing,

that it's not something that we have to experience

as much as like the two previous generations before for us.

Like, I can't imagine some of the things

that these women had to go through,

and that does really like tear my heart out sometimes

as I hear stories,

when that movement was happening

and sort of realizing the scope of it,

it was like, 'Ugh', it was sickening.

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I was diagnosed with with Depression

and Generalized Anxiety Disorder in college.

Recently that has upgraded into Bipolar Disorder

and Generalized Anxiety Disorder and ADHD.

I struggled a lot when I was in school,

not having the proper resources,

or really guidance at that time.

Once I got to LA,

I really started on my own sort of self-love, self-care,

and self-therapy.

Every day, is something I have to manage or take care of,

but I also welcome.

While I have ADHD,

I'm also able to take in a lot of information,

all at one time.

I might get tired, but that's okay.

I am able to gather more information

than the average person might.

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The idea that Marienne talks about

at the end of season three,

where she says that, 'You know, I'm attracted to toxic men,

and I realize it's because there's toxicity in me'.

Then that was something that I was like, 'Yes'.

And I was happy to be able to deliver that line

and hope that other women who might be in that space

could hear that and take in that conversation,

and for their own self.

I have been in an abusive relationship before,

and it was my family, and my loved ones,

literally had to pull me out, sort of,

and I'm so grateful, and I thank God for them,

because yeah, it was a rough time

and I don't know if I would've been able to escape

had it not been for my loved ones.

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It was so nerve wracking,

but yes, we did have an Intimacy Coordinator.

It was such a interesting, sort of strange conversation

that I had never engaged in,

of like, 'Okay, is it okay if he touches here?

Is it like every, like butt,

can he to the side of your butt?

How about the butt cheek?

Are you okay with side boob?

Are you okay with one nipple or two nipples'?

Things that I wouldn't have even thought about

if I was in the moment,

like of just kind of going through it.

Me and Penn had developed a rhythm,

'cause I told him the first day that I came on set,

for our first scene, I was like,

'So dude, I gotta tell you, I'm so nervous,

never done this before'.

And he's like, 'Oh my God, no, it's gonna be fine'.

He's like, 'We'll go through it'.

Like, it ends up being like a dance

if you choreograph it all.

And he's like, 'And just like, you know, talk to me,

let me know if you feel weird about something,

if you're uncomfortable',

and he was just so helpful, and really,

I think a great person to have as an introduction to that.

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In my early years of being in the industry,

and auditioning and things,

it was disheartening, but not surprising

that I would get a lot of auditions that, you know,

on the thing, it would read open to all ethnicities,

like they want the open casting call.

And I would go to these things, do my audition, whatever,

and when I would see these projects come out,

it was always a white girl that was in the role.

And granted, that could have been the thing,

that, you know, just she happened to be better

or whatever the case.

What it told me was like,

I don't think that you actually wanted

a different ethnicity,

I think that you wanted a white girl.

Giving more opportunities to people of color,

that they, and I feel like even more so,

that now it's almost like it's being flipped on its head

in a way.

Now, even searching for more like projects

that are filled with people of color

that redemption is seeming like it's needed to be had.

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I grew up a tomboy,

and I had a lot of male friends growing up, and still do,

and I realized once I got into my teen years,

that without having women around,

the there's a certain level of understanding

that you can't receive from speaking to

your guy best friend.

Women have a different sense of nurturing

that I think is really important to always have around.